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O. Sami Saydjari
December 14th 03, 10:33 PM
Has anyone seen any comparartive statistics of flying versus
driving...either as deaths per 100,000 miles or deaths per 100,000
hours. -Sami

BTIZ
December 15th 03, 01:05 AM
do some google searches in this area... this topic comes up at least once a
year on r.a.p., r.a.o, and r.a.s.

BT

"O. Sami Saydjari" > wrote in message
...
> Has anyone seen any comparartive statistics of flying versus
> driving...either as deaths per 100,000 miles or deaths per 100,000
> hours. -Sami
>

Mike Rapoport
December 15th 03, 01:50 AM
Most statistics put non-professionally-flown flying in small GA airplanes at
about 10X the fatality rate of driving. The NTSB and the AOPA Nall report
have figures.

Mike
MU-2


"O. Sami Saydjari" > wrote in message
...
> Has anyone seen any comparartive statistics of flying versus
> driving...either as deaths per 100,000 miles or deaths per 100,000
> hours. -Sami
>

W9MV
December 15th 03, 01:50 AM
According to information obtained from a friend who works at the AOPA Flight
Safety Foundation, he indicated that a rough estimation would compare the
safety of flying a GA aircraft being as safe as driving a motorcycle. Driving a
car is safer than flying :(
Mark

O. Sami Saydjari
December 15th 03, 03:01 AM
I did a bit of googling and found the following link.

http://www.ghafi.org/download/GA-Analysis.1.pdf

It suggests that GA flying is 5x safer than driving for non-fatal
accidents, but that driving is 5X safer than GA flying for fatal
accidents. Interesting....

-Sami

W9MV wrote:
> According to information obtained from a friend who works at the AOPA Flight
> Safety Foundation, he indicated that a rough estimation would compare the
> safety of flying a GA aircraft being as safe as driving a motorcycle. Driving a
> car is safer than flying :(
> Mark

Mike Rapoport
December 15th 03, 04:41 AM
Be careful, in your link, they are using all GA aircraft including business
jets operated by professional crews which are many times safer than small GA
aircraft.

Mike
MU-2


"O. Sami Saydjari" > wrote in message
...
> I did a bit of googling and found the following link.
>
> http://www.ghafi.org/download/GA-Analysis.1.pdf
>
> It suggests that GA flying is 5x safer than driving for non-fatal
> accidents, but that driving is 5X safer than GA flying for fatal
> accidents. Interesting....
>
> -Sami
>
> W9MV wrote:
> > According to information obtained from a friend who works at the AOPA
Flight
> > Safety Foundation, he indicated that a rough estimation would compare
the
> > safety of flying a GA aircraft being as safe as driving a motorcycle.
Driving a
> > car is safer than flying :(
> > Mark
>

Thomas Borchert
December 15th 03, 10:01 AM
O.,

Well, first, you need to differentiate General Aviation from the
airlines and other professional flying. The latter is much safer.

Then you'll end up seeing that GA flying is about as safe as motorcycle
riding. There's a big difference, though: On a motorcycle, your safety
depends a lot on the drivers around you. In a plane, it's almost
entirely up to you.

And this turns out to be the deciding factor: The vast majority of GA
accidents comes from the pilot doing something utterly stupid - like
pressing on VFR into IMC, running out of fuel or trying to continue a
botched landing instead of going around. Thus, if you try real hard not
to commit any of these well published stupidities, your safety
increases a lot over motorcycle driving.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Dennis O'Connor
December 15th 03, 01:59 PM
Yes...

"O. Sami Saydjari" > wrote in message
...
> Has anyone seen any comparartive statistics of flying versus
> driving...either as deaths per 100,000 miles or deaths per 100,000
> hours. -Sami
>

PaulaJay1
December 15th 03, 04:37 PM
In article >, (W9MV)
writes:

>According to information obtained from a friend who works at the AOPA Flight
>Safety Foundation, he indicated that a rough estimation would compare the
>safety of flying a GA aircraft being as safe as driving a motorcycle. Driving
>a
>car is safer than flying :(

I always rationalize that I have much more control over my safety in the plane
that in the car (or motorcycle if I had one). With cars, about half of the
people involved are blameless. That is, a car comes across the center line and
hits you. With motorcycles I'll bet that it is greater than half . In the
plane, running out of fuel and flying into weather are major causes of
accidents and under my control. The two party accident where I am blameless is
rare.

Chuck

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